00:00.00 archaeoteacup Sorry, okay, that was on. Yeah sorry it counts down it just 3 2 1 Okay, yeah, it's on good again. 00:00.00 Ashleigh Airey So sorry. But oh yeah, I didn't see that do do but okay, welcome Back. So I looked at the runes and it seems to me and tilly that the most interesting way we could approach finding the kiyak is to landscape archeology. Specifically we can look at both the natural and cultural environment to help usnouse it. 00:21.25 archaeoteacup But I mean Landscape archaeology What exactly How would you Define Landscape archaeology. 00:28.77 Ashleigh Airey I'm glad you ask tilly? Um, so Landscape archeology is a Multi-dis Slippy approach to archaeological theory so it looks at the ways that the past is constructed and used in the vimen around them. Um, sorry can I see that again I think I missed out people. 00:42.50 archaeoteacup Yeah I think you miss help people that you but is kind of the important point that. 00:45.41 Ashleigh Airey Yeah, there's like and it's just the past it constructs itself. Okay, cool. Sorry thank you. 00:50.40 archaeoteacup I got I'm going to say what is landscape archaeology again as well because otherwise that sounds a bit like sorry Rachel but what is landscape archeology. 00:59.84 Ashleigh Airey Well I'm glad you asked. Landscape Archaeology is a multidisciplinary approach to archaeological theory so it looks at the way people in the past constructed and used their environment around them such as a site's relationship between material culture human activity. Land and cultural modifications to the site and the natural environment around it too. Yeah landscape archaeologists they look at these choices people make about how and where to live and what types of settlements or buildings they build and what types of food they can grow and eat. So we'd be looking at 2 things. Impact each other the natural environment topography and climate and soils while also looking at the cultural world created by humans such as place names customs traditions that are central to these landscapes so to make it simple. We're looking for areas of natural and cultural landscape. Important that the kayak has had a I'm impact on and so we follow that trail. 02:03.73 archaeoteacup But hey, um, okay so this might sound a little bit silly but what like when you say landscape So you mentioned like names and stuff. But I mean isn't landscape just kind of mountains and trees and things. 02:17.31 Ashleigh Airey Oh Yeah I see I Okay I got ahead to myself that. Okay, yeah, you're correct. So all these things um include include the landscape definitely. But Also the place it's the place right? where we as humans choose to inhabit so where you are right now listening to us listeners. That is part of your landscape. It has meaning because you are there. The landscape Archaeologists begin every investigation with the principle that the landscape was and is meaningful so you have chosen to be there to build and live there because of the conjunction between nature and culture that. 02:51.92 archaeoteacup So do you mean like the particular reader So like my street or would it be like my house or my room like how big or how small is it. 02:52.71 Ashleigh Airey Is our landscape. 03:03.10 Ashleigh Airey It's really a spatial kind of thing. So um, yeah, all of that So you'd look at the larger landscape which is the place you are in so like the county you're in why you're there. 03:10.48 archaeoteacup The. 03:16.24 Ashleigh Airey Then you kind of narrow it down and we look at the most spatial aspect of stuff. So why are you in this these 4 walls right now what activities are you doing within these 4 walls and you can kind of trace people's steps and how they go about their life through landscape archaeology. 03:29.61 archaeoteacup Okay, and like because so for example, at the moment I'm living in a house that my husband's grandparents built like so there's is the landscape is it also time dependent like would my. Definition of landscape This is getting very deep like would my definition of landscape be different to their definition of landscape or is it only the physical thing like how how how linked is it to the people or to the place if that makes sense. Oh Good name. 04:00.58 Ashleigh Airey It's intertwined. So yeah, okay landscape changes and that's because society changes the meaning changes but it's still meaningful. So why you choose to, you know, live in your landscape is maybe not the same reason why you know your Michael's grandparents or. Why the neolithic people chose to live there but they are still both interconnected because you still inhabit that space right? no. 04:28.37 archaeoteacup Um, and does that like sorry I keep asking questions because I'm genuinely interested in this because I haven't really I did like 1 module on landscape archaeology when I was in my undergrad but it's not really something that I've gone into in a lot of detail and I know that you have more experience. I've taking the opportunity to do oh you did landscape stuff but it's sort of that because I guess it's that idea of because you mentioned sort of neolithic and the landscape but is it still basically would someone who's so for example, the Cali would someone who is um. 04:43.36 Ashleigh Airey Ah, like I just like have much more extra. Yeah. 05:02.42 archaeoteacup Who lives in that region and understands. Its the the landscape but has no real understanding of the history or the folklore. How would their interpretation be more or less appropriate I guess is the word I'm using. Then for example, someone who. Doesn't really know the landscape but knows a lot about the folklore and the and the stories about the caliph and that side of it like how much of it is is based in the actual physical part. Do you know what? I'm trying to say I might be. 05:28.45 Ashleigh Airey Well I suppose I mean both are interesting concepts. But if you're living in the physical landscape you understand it more than when you don't right because you know the paths you know the the way the nature works around you. You know what. 05:35.93 archaeoteacup Okay, I'm but. 05:43.55 Ashleigh Airey Um, animals and how what plants and Flora and fauna grow. But that means you're interacting with it on a different level than someone who doesn't live in the landscape. So it's kind of similar to you know you talk about Community building and archaeologists go in to different communities. We need to have an understanding of that community and we need community on our side because. 06:01.24 archaeoteacup Yeah, the. 06:01.98 Ashleigh Airey Important because they live in that landscape. So That's part of landscape archeology for someone who knows about the area and and you know hasn't I never been the best thing to do is to do walkovers. So for if you're trying to find a site. You know it's sort of in this area. Not to show what you can find you know there was activity though because someone maybe sometime found something like a hammer or something in the landscape then what you do is you do like a walkover save it and you tag any sort of sight that you think might be of importance and that could just literally be a lump in the ground and you think looks like a stone. 06:25.44 archaeoteacup The. 06:39.43 Ashleigh Airey But why is it there and there was a line of stones that looks like a little bit of a dwelling or something kind so you'd put a tag in it and then we'd come back and start looking at it and plot these things and that's how you can start to understand the landscape and how people moved around. It does that answer your question. Yeah cool. 06:40.15 archaeoteacup Um, ah. 06:51.64 archaeoteacup It does it does? Yeah yeah, so so I guess in terms of the karaka would have to be. We'd need to know about the stories about her because you mentioned the 1 thing I could remember from what you mentioned earlier was that she dropped stones to make mountains. So I guess following a mountain range would be a good way to start. 07:09.27 Ashleigh Airey Yeah, no, you are? That's exactly what it is so place names right? So place names mean that people associate those areas with her okay or with something. So for example in Scotland. 07:10.85 archaeoteacup Or am I am I thinking too literally now. 07:26.86 Ashleigh Airey The the kayak is often found in Argyle and butte why she must like a lot I don't know so you could look at um but I can't it like ah just it Ben Cro croing K Crewed crooken 07:28.22 archaeoteacup Okay. 07:42.93 archaeoteacup Thenra Ben Crawton 07:45.15 Ashleigh Airey I' literally just read this k crew again crooken yeah, we cut that bit so you look at Ben Crook and the tallest mountain in the region and she is there right? She also created lock all according to the folklore. 07:49.37 archaeoteacup Krugen Grofield okay go again, go again. Go again. 07:57.46 archaeoteacup This is the. 08:04.50 Ashleigh Airey So you know she was um before anything survived. She was tending sheep she loves sheep. She loves animals and she fell asleep and then the what the well that was in the landscape overflow overflowed and created the first river un loch. 08:19.40 archaeoteacup Ah, ah oh ah. 08:23.60 Ashleigh Airey She fell asleep. She was just doing her thing. She was walking around in the landscape creating it accidentally? Um, and yeah and that's how stuff happens and that's how things are made Ben Nevis I ah heard from someone on the trail um is her mountain throne. 08:29.15 archaeoteacup Who? ah. 08:43.54 Ashleigh Airey And on Ila Sky Ben Nachayak and that's the hill of the old woman that's near the coolans so she inhabits those areas she likes to go around those areas. These are her haunts. So when we're walking around what we can do is we can go and knock on people's doors. Um and ask them. Where's the kayak. 08:57.85 archaeoteacup Yeah, yeah, or what's that mounting called Ben the kayak I think we're close. 09:02.60 Ashleigh Airey Been Yeah is that a guy who sees you yeah and some guy be like well actually yeah, saw a big foot go past my door this morning you know she sees in a very jaorwy accent instead of a scotch accent. Yeah, she's also. 09:18.58 archaeoteacup We've got a bit further south we're starting in Northern England yeah ah 09:21.23 Ashleigh Airey So Newcastle did you know that car she goes up and down the breath of the country and but yeah. 09:24.90 archaeoteacup Ah, well and actually I was going to ask that so she mentioned we've been talking about places Scotland be you mentioned she's quite big in celtic mythology. So is she also in like Ireland and Wales and stuff as well. 09:35.54 Ashleigh Airey She's definitely in Ireland I'm not too sure about wales actually but she's definitely in Ireland you've got um from what I've heard is that a lot of archaeological site have been um, kind of associated with the kayak. Um, so there's. Car lack. Ah Jesus Christ sorry cut that of please so is Lord ah. 09:58.54 archaeoteacup Ah, does Jesus Christ hear color. 10:06.45 Ashleigh Airey I blame myself for choosing this one. It's so difficult to pronounce and I'm but fucking in english and why did I decide to do this anyway. I don't have the tongue for it as Martin's granny would say so um, so again, so yeah in Ireland there's many archaeological sites that are related to her so wedge tombs such as. 10:21.58 archaeoteacup Who will this. 10:24.66 Ashleigh Airey Laakcali and and long crew county me and passage tombs as well called the kayaks mountain and she tends to inhabit these these these um passage tombs and these cairns so they're often locally known as haunts for her and so people will go to these. Areas and still even to Dis day perform certain and rituals. There's one in I believe dumfries where she um, resided with her husband botock which means old man. Um, and basically they used to go in and all of her children would go in and that's where they would live. And they'd have a fire but those stones on the outside. So in winter they make sure that people the local landscape make sure that the stones have been moved to the outside so she can get in and then in summer they move the stones back inside. 11:12.46 archaeoteacup Ah, okay now so it really is even if she hasn't done stuff herself the way other people interact with the landscape is directly representative of how whether or not she's there. Oh very cool. 11:21.21 Ashleigh Airey Her Yeah so we could find these tombs and see if anything has moved and changed around it. 11:33.80 archaeoteacup Okay, okay, okay, okay so yeah, basically just it's almost like a big a big scavenger hunt like a big following being like right here's a big a big lock like a big lake. Let's see there sheep around. Maybe she was sleeping or something I mean but I know that happened a while like. 11:39.76 Ashleigh Airey Yes. 11:52.36 archaeoteacup But like or you know that kind of thing and then tatting to people a lot and asking about their experience of the landscape. 11:55.94 Ashleigh Airey Yeah, exactly. So yeah, we could. You know we've already knocked in a few doors and then we could knock on a few more doors and then a guy's like well actually we've been enough that lock over there wasn't there before and you're like all right? We're on the trail now. But following her through the landscape but let's yeah, place names are really really important in this. Um, so anything that you find that has the Kayak's name attached to it is her dwelling in some way. Yeah. 12:23.40 archaeoteacup Okay, or even not necessarily cut but anything related to old woman old hag or like something something along those lines I guess. 12:31.32 Ashleigh Airey Exactly So a lot of the times when you especially on and the Nile of sky when Hikers are walking around the Coolans and stuff that's actually her her place. That's where she goes This is her landscape and her her home. You know? Um, even though she creates the landscape. So. 12:45.97 archaeoteacup It. 12:50.95 Ashleigh Airey We are interacting with folklore and we're also interacting with the landscape kind of archaeological record in that place because people are inhabiting it and they're interacting with the landscape in not necessarily even the domestic way but in different activities. Um, so that's how that's how I think. 13:04.80 archaeoteacup That yeah. 13:09.96 Ashleigh Airey That's the best way to try and track ah down the kayak. 13:11.32 archaeoteacup Yeah, definitely oh, that's really cool I like that one. 13:15.65 Ashleigh Airey Okay, fab. So I think we've sort of figured out how we're gonna do it and we've been walking around. We've been chatting to other people and we've been getting place names and we've been looking at the landscape so we stumble upon an ancient cairn and it sits before us. 13:19.84 archaeoteacup The. 13:34.52 Ashleigh Airey Um, as we approach the frosted Glen crunches under our boots our noses sting with the cold emanating from a crumbling dwelling and even as we approach the un natural blue flame inside flickers across the lynch and encrusted stones. We're scared. Okay. 13:52.38 archaeoteacup Okay, okay I mean fear it's the fear. It's going. 13:53.40 Ashleigh Airey Um, lovely dos of fear emerging from the electric depths. A woman appears Firewooden hand her face a deathly blue and as her lone azure eye stares at us. Well. Do you have my washing the kayak tells us her voice biting into us like hail on oh sorry. 14:26.91 archaeoteacup Ah, man. 14:29.19 Ashleigh Airey Ah, wouldy echo god damn it. Oh Jesus right? Okay, where did I get up to of as her I know I'm so. 14:33.59 archaeoteacup Ah, okay, I'm so sorry Rachel we're already doing a half hour thing and you're gonna have to cut bloody technology. Okay, sorry yeah yeah. 14:43.47 Ashleigh Airey Sorry oh no, it's too early. Okay oh I'll say well do you want Mar Well do you have my washing Theaxy advice. Yeah, she's I'm I'm not very good at Skyja advice biting into us. 14:54.69 archaeoteacup The fear's got a little bit got a bit. 15:03.31 Ashleigh Airey Like hail on your cheek shaking I hold out the plaid to her the still dirty plaid but something in tilly's mind stirs. 15:15.50 archaeoteacup Oh something keep my mind Hysteric. Ah. 15:17.74 Ashleigh Airey I'm tilly I'm going to have to ask you to roll an insight check. 15:26.15 archaeoteacup It's a 16 Oh my goodness would have been a very short episode otherwise. Ah. 15:26.16 Ashleigh Airey Oh you've passed the insight Check Whoa who you have a very low insight. But yeah. 15:36.42 archaeoteacup Oh right? Yes, so then I sorry an inside Check Oh I suddenly I suddenly have this the thought hi godash. It's nearly spring. So if you give the caliph her winter plaid. She'll wash it and bring in winter again. 15:51.83 Ashleigh Airey Oh the kayak grins caught out. You have passed the old Hag's test fighting against the call of spring she thought to wash the winter plaid again until it was white as fresh snow urging in another winter storm you have successfully thwarted the kayaks icy plan. 16:09.88 archaeoteacup 5 16:11.80 Ashleigh Airey She congratulates you on not being fooled by her or her trickster Husband Bottock and gifts you a piece of her firewood. 16:19.38 archaeoteacup Ah, get it now. Yeah, honestly, the insight check didn't help because I'm still so good thought wait. Why wouldn't she watch right? Got it. Go now I understand now I see. 16:26.68 Ashleigh Airey Oh way. Okay I get it now we yeah, you just have like a tangling Spidey sense feeling. Yeah, you just intuitive you just get people. Yeah. 16:33.31 archaeoteacup Right? Yeah I'm just I'm naturally smart even though I don't that So ah, yes, luckily someone's written it all down for me. So it's a trick to to. 16:45.40 Ashleigh Airey Ah I want to who that was um, the naraia family. Um, brilliant. Well, that's about it for this episode of um, my trial I Hope you enjoyed this quest. 16:49.37 archaeoteacup Ah, okay, good well done well done us. 16:57.45 Ashleigh Airey If there's any suggestions that people have for an episode that they've gotten from a fantasy book or have an archaeological concept that they don't understand that we might be able to help through fantasy or something in a book that they want to find out more about um from an archaeological viewpoint do get in contact via email or social media. All contact info as well as references and further reading for all the points we've discussed today can be found in the show notes. 17:20.53 archaeoteacup Oh Wow Ash look at the sky I don't know but I think we're going to find out. 17:23.81 Ashleigh Airey Oh My God That's Beautiful. What is it. Oh.