00:01.17 archaeoteacup Welcome back to this slightly silly episode of and my trial. Um, so before the break we were talking about. Well we're talking about 50 shes of gray for some reason. Um, but not sorry, not sure how that came into the topic. But what we were supposed to be talking about kind of. Books we read and how we read them and that kind of thing and the reason we were talking about that is because we're going to start a read along ah on Discord live events. Ah, it's still to be finalized how regular these live events are going to be and how often we're going to be on as well because it's going to be an archeology podcast network series. Um, so we might only be on every couple of months but obviously we'll still do our normal episodes in the meantime. But so ash. Maybe you want to reveal to the lovely people listening what we are gonna be reading. 00:51.29 Ashleigh Airey Oh yes, well since the whole podcast is sort of being inspired by Tolkien and we thought that it would be um, wise to start with the hobbit. You know you know, but. 01:02.70 archaeoteacup Ah, Sam was well although he's not in the hobbit the mind sorry I was trying to trying to be clever who just ended up being even more silly. Yeah, the ho it. Ya. 01:12.57 Ashleigh Airey It's very early in the morning for us. This is why yeah Hob it? yeah. 01:19.21 archaeoteacup Which and I think we I think we spoke about this already in the first episode but that was already 11 episodes ago. So um, maybe we can refresh ourselves you have you have read the hobbit correct. Yes, yes this yes and you yes oh yes yes, yes yes but you read it first before you read Lord of the rings. 01:26.46 Ashleigh Airey Yes, yes, and you have a view is this it? Yeah I read it when I was younger so when everyone else was reading Harry Potter I read the hobbit as the good. 01:41.76 archaeoteacup Ah, now you with a cool kid. Ah, ah, um, yeah, no nice. Yeah yeah because I did it the other way round for some reason I read the lord of the rings first when I was younger and then. 01:45.94 Ashleigh Airey I was not like the other girls got. But. 01:59.62 archaeoteacup The hobbit when I was like 1516 or something which is interesting reading it that way round because after reading Lord of the rings. The hobbit seems very not simple, but like definitely aimed for a younger audience which it was right? like? yeah yeah, yeah, so that was quite interesting. 02:00.19 Ashleigh Airey Oh. 02:13.30 Ashleigh Airey Yes, it's a children's book isn't it. Yeah yeah, ah. 02:17.58 archaeoteacup But yeah, but then the read log that we're going to do is not just a read. We're not just going to read. You know we're not going to just sit and read it out loud. That's that's not what the read long will be what we will do. We will read and we have to work out how many how many chapters are in here and I have my copy here. Let's have a little look. We have oh there's actually quite a few chapters and they're approximately 20 pages 30 pages each oh apart from a short rest which is only 10 pages long interesting. Um, but yeah, so so based on our previous discussion of how much we can read in a month um we could probably manage like 2 chapters and per live if we have a live every couple of months correct movie. We can see how we go. We'll have to see live to see how we go with it see how much we get read um in between but the idea is that Ash and I will read certain chapter or chapters. 02:58.72 Ashleigh Airey Yeah, why not my. 03:12.50 archaeoteacup And then we will discuss it in our live episode but we will discuss it as archaeologists because we are archaeologists as we have stated and the whole aim of this podcast is to sort of look at fantasy through the eyes of archaeology so we will be reading this as if we are archaeologists out on a. 03:16.94 Ashleigh Airey Yes. 03:31.72 archaeoteacup Ahgraphic field trip following this band of of ah dwarves and hobbit as they venture on their quest. But yeah. 03:40.40 Ashleigh Airey Yeah I am too Actually I think it's gonna be a new and a similar but new direction and it'll be a lot of fun and it'll be that kind of content that's like you can read along with us as well. 03:46.21 archaeoteacup Yes, yes. Exactly Yeah, that would be fun and also given your you know if anyone has any insights or any any brain waves about something please do share them with us because that'll be fun to. 04:03.31 Ashleigh Airey Yeah, maybe you know more minds. It's always a good makes a good brew I don't know is that That's not the phrase more teeth makes a good brew I don't know I've just made that up have I made that up. But. 04:11.46 archaeoteacup Well my oh I thought you said more minds still more I mean it sounds it sounds like it could be a ah phrase more there. 04:21.93 Ashleigh Airey I Dont know you know and if you know what the answer is that as well and us know because yeah, yeah, you should do it. Do it in a smileggles for. 04:27.77 archaeoteacup Yeah, yeah, there we go. That's our riddle for you there. We go first riddle. What is what is that saying that Ashe is trying to say yeah, exactly me my precious great minds like I can't do it. 04:40.10 Ashleigh Airey I'm not going to try and do that now. 04:44.97 archaeoteacup It was more like yoga on mushrooms or something. But. 04:46.11 Ashleigh Airey Please. 04:51.14 archaeoteacup Um, okay, have live mind how we try to week and impression again. But um, but yes, so ah, so so that will be what we will be chatting about um in our live sessions. Um, so. 05:07.19 Ashleigh Airey Ah, do this me? Ah yeah. 05:08.99 archaeoteacup Yes, as I say we're still deciding exactly when the lives are going to be even if the archeology Podcast Network lives doesn't sort of take off soon. We might just start one Anyway, maybe because we also have a ah lovely Discord server for. Something that is yeah, kind of quite similar and I guess the inspiration for for this podcast. Um because speaking about yeah reading books as an archeologist I mean is this something that you first before we get into that is this something that you you still do before we started this podcast asher is it something that's. 05:30.77 Ashleigh Airey My head. 05:45.97 archaeoteacup But recently started. 05:46.15 Ashleigh Airey Well, we've kind of talked about this before and um I think for me no I Never really read books as an archaeologist or and when I joined the archaeo Book club which is the server that we're talking about. 05:53.17 archaeoteacup This. Yes. 06:00.49 Ashleigh Airey Um, and we start we actually look at books through an archaeological perspective that have like hint that you know they touched the archaeological genre in a way or have archaeologists in them or some processes then you start to look as it like an archaeologist actually. 06:07.16 archaeoteacup Good. 06:16.27 Ashleigh Airey A lot of the times when I was reading I'd actively avoid archaeology books. Um, yeah. 06:18.26 archaeoteacup I Mean that's fair. That's also like when you you know, go on archaeological tours or something if you go on something that a tour of something that you've researched you inevitably are like no, that's wrong. Well, that's a bit simplistic or on. So. 06:29.59 Ashleigh Airey Yeah, that you're like yeah because inevitably it would be like harkering back to ancestors or like I don't know it would be like the Neil Oliver light edition of something and you know so like it would always. 06:37.86 archaeoteacup I am. Yeah, yeah. 06:48.43 Ashleigh Airey I'd always read it and get a little bit frustrated and I'm not saying that either that the books that we read in like your book club. Don't do that. In fact, yeah, there's never mean a few but we have a community where we can like reach with each other like what is going on. What do you mean. 06:54.00 archaeoteacup No, there's definitely been a few. Yes. 07:07.20 Ashleigh Airey She's not using a trowel. She just feels the environment and knows what archaeology is yeah yeah, join the Discord if you want to know what jo agrees. 07:10.45 archaeoteacup Ah, oh gosh I just got to that part in this month's book. Yeah, but yeah. 07:20.15 Ashleigh Airey And so yeah, there's like you know I actively avoided it for a really long time because it would actually make me internally cringe sometimes and I'd be like oh what can do it I can do it? Um, what about you? Do do you read Beforehand read from an archaeological perspective from your training. 07:27.74 archaeoteacup You know, no. 07:35.94 archaeoteacup And I know again I don't think so really, but I have realized that when I read I usually am just trying to lose myself so I don't really I'm not as critical I guess when I read it or I didn't used to be and actually since joining the book club that has made me a lot more aware of a lot of things. 07:45.25 Ashleigh Airey 1 2 07:54.90 archaeoteacup That maybe before I would have just kind of been blind to or not really noticed or whatever and now it's like oh interesting. Yeah, okay you know so I noticed other issues as well that I had I didn't really pay attention to before I guess which is a good. 08:01.86 Ashleigh Airey And then. 08:11.45 archaeoteacup And a bad thing because it means that some books I'm just like oh like I probably would have enjoyed this but now I'm very aware of this issue that you know keeps coming up and but then I think I still am able to kind of turn off that critique when I when I need to but I never used to read it I don't. 08:17.84 Ashleigh Airey Yeah. 08:28.42 archaeoteacup I Wouldn't say I avoided Archeology Books In fact, actually I used to I always used to try and find ones with archaeologists in because I was curious. Um, but then I didn't necessarily critique the the archaeology within it as Much. Um. Just sort of enjoyed the story whereas now. Yeah in the book Cub where're a lot more focused on how how the archeology is represented within it so you know which and there's been quite a few where you know we've been pleasantly surprised actually at at. 08:51.70 Ashleigh Airey And. 08:59.16 Ashleigh Airey Oh yeah, or even there's like a layer of it where you can look. You can read something and as an archeologist you're like oh this is their methodology. Oh and that kind of shows you that they've researched. 09:00.78 archaeoteacup The depiction of archaeology and and it's done correctly. And yeah so I think. 09:11.79 archaeoteacup Um, yeah, yes. 09:17.20 Ashleigh Airey And they didn't want to put so much archaeology in it that it kind of you know and imbalanced the book but they they can show you that they have worked and or experienced archeology in some way. Yeah. 09:21.52 archaeoteacup Yeah, because. 09:27.65 archaeoteacup Yeah, or even just talked to an archeologist which some some of them. You think you don't know you haven't even you've seen Indiana Jones and this is your you've maybe done 1 volunteer dig of like a very unprofessional archaeological dig and this is what you think archaeology is. 09:37.58 Ashleigh Airey Yes, ah. 09:46.58 Ashleigh Airey Yeah, and we've also met some like brilliant writers in themselves who are archaeologists like there's some of the best actually 1 of the best books of um, this year I'd say and that's coming out in April is our good friend em weld's broken. 09:47.53 archaeoteacup But yes, yeah. 10:02.56 archaeoteacup This is ah even if I're broken. Yeah, even if we're broke. Yeah, ah so good and yeah, doesn' 10:04.19 Ashleigh Airey Serious book. Even if we're broken and which is about 2 archaeologists and the balance of archeology in that is Unreal. You're like oh my God you can geek out so much. So um, yeah, it's been a been fantastic and I think the archaea Boot Club has allowed me. To look at stuff from a different perspective and an archaeological perspective too. So It's been fun. 10:25.58 archaeoteacup Yeah, and which it like so of the majority of the stuff. Well I wouldn't say the majority of the stuff we read in the book club is not fantasy because we have had a couple of fantasy ones. Um, but we don't necessarily focus on fantasy but of course in this podcast. We want to focus on. Use of fantasy as a genre because as we spoke about in our very first episode. It's one of those which you know it's but it's basically world building which is kind of what archaeology is um and one of the things I really like about reading fantasy books as an archaeologist and looking at that is that you can see. It's not necessarily depicting. 10:48.65 Ashleigh Airey Um. 10:59.81 archaeoteacup The field of archaeology but you can read it from an archaeologist's viewpoint if that makes sense like right? you can you can see the law build up and you can see the the fact that oh they've mentioned this one little thing and that's because of this and this and that you know it's. 11:03.39 Ashleigh Airey And. 11:15.64 archaeoteacup It's all linked. It's all very detailed and I think that that's when a fantasy world is done really well is when you could go in as an archaeologist and excavate. 11:24.28 Ashleigh Airey Yeah, ah absolutely cause I mean Archeology Iss the study of human activity isn't it. So if you have humans or if you have orks if you have dragonborn or whatever you know? um. 11:27.14 archaeoteacup Yeah, hey. 11:36.32 Ashleigh Airey You can still go into that world and be completely immersed then you know that's a really live. Ah, it's an alive world. Um, one that an archeologist can easily dig into ah ah. 11:42.70 archaeoteacup Um, yeah, ah, no get um but ah. 11:55.45 Ashleigh Airey Okay, ah. 11:59.82 archaeoteacup I ah yeah, so so I'm looking forward to the to the read along and that's sort of what we're going to aim to do with these is we're going to sort of explore the world through the lens of archeology respect exactly with the and also with the heart I just opened to the first page and it is. 12:04.93 Ashleigh Airey Um. 12:08.67 Ashleigh Airey Yeah, web but what better to start than Tolen's worlds you know like amazing. 12:19.44 archaeoteacup You know it's It's archeology in a hole in the ground right? like that's literally how the book starts although I like the movie. So the first hole it will I know you will probably know it but in a hole in the ground they lift a hobbit. Not a nasty dirty wet hole filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell. 12:21.75 Ashleigh Airey Yeah, that's true. 12:37.51 archaeoteacup Nor yet a dry their sandyhole with nothing in it to sit down on order to eat. It was a hobbit hole and that means comfort which you know that real thought I love it already right? Imagine you dig it down. You're like oh Ho hole. Lovely. 12:37.78 Ashleigh Airey Fina. 12:43.31 Ashleigh Airey Oh man, wish all the sights hide dug like hover holes. It's more like a hovel. 12:55.58 archaeoteacup Yeah, ah yeah, but great. Well so yeah, this has been a slightly different kind of episode to you ones? Um I think I think we covered everything that we that we needed to? yeah yeah, like yeah we asked. 13:01.58 Ashleigh Airey Yes. Yeah, it was an update episode with a bit of fun in there a bit of silliness for the new year 13:15.11 archaeoteacup We're also by the way going to try and make our Instagram at the moment as you can imagine here. Both of us are very busy with lots of other things. This is a a thing that we do in our very limited spare time. Um, but we are going to try and make our our Instagram account a little bit more interactive so that we can. 13:20.59 Ashleigh Airey So yeah. 13:29.34 Ashleigh Airey No. 13:33.47 archaeoteacup You know, share other things with you get some feedback and you know, ah yeah, make you a little bit more involved in the podcast as well. At the moment we've just been sharing when new episodes are released but so it might still take a little bit for us to get going but our aim at least is is to do that. So hopefully we can. We can. 13:48.76 Ashleigh Airey Emma. 13:51.78 archaeoteacup Get a bit more traction on there as well and get a bit more interaction with you I Lovely listeners. Yeah so I've just realized I don't have the outro thing here and sorry who whoever is editing this rachel. 13:51.96 Ashleigh Airey Yes. 14:05.35 Ashleigh Airey Didn't that. 14:07.86 archaeoteacup Um, apologize give me 1 second sorry Rachel. Ah okay, let me just scroll down phil scroll. Okay, ah, we're ready to finish right? Yeah great bra bra. 14:08.10 Ashleigh Airey Please sorry. 14:21.00 Ashleigh Airey Yes, yes, good timing because I can hear Martin moving around which means he want breakfast. Ah. 14:29.49 Ashleigh Airey But and not just see that I make him breakfast is just I'm in the living room kitchen. So. 14:35.25 archaeoteacup The right? Okay, ah well so that's about it for this episode of and my trial. We hope that you enjoyed listening as I mentioned if you have any suggestions for future topics or any inspiration for ideas that you think that we could. 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