00:00.00 alifeinruins And welcome back with episode 152 so continuing on this conversation of archeology like archaeology that is existing within the warhammer forty k universe but then also you know talking conceptual like how the fuck would we as modern day archaeologists to do if we were like time warped into forty k and would not be branded heretics immediately. How would you actually do some of this and like excavate ah these sites because like how would you actually do it other than basically doing indiana jones style archeology which is primarily what 40 k is of like going into known places and and looting for technology. Um Mason. Ah, mentioned earlier the landites who are also known as the Landis and these are a subcult within the adeptus mechanicists and there are disciples of the techno archeologist arkan land ah, and. 00:50.96 Craibo Um. 00:52.68 alifeinruins So there are there are archaeologists. They're techno archeologists specifically and and so he he finds this s stc which Craig mentioned in the liberious omnis basically the whole language of what they call high gothic and 40 k is like english words with like. 00:53.84 Mason Um. 00:54.52 Craibo Are. 01:13.14 alifeinruins Fucking what is anti. What's the opposite of a suffix like Latin Suffixes you just add you just like kind of latinize it a little bit. Yeah, you add us a lot. Yeah o us this? Um, ah so. 01:21.31 Craibo Um, us boost. 01:31.27 alifeinruins Because they find this helios pattern and the Prometheus pattern basically vehicles. Um, but the landites in thirty nine Thousand they basically get genocideed because they take the knowledge from these you know archaeo vehicles to create a new vehicle. And that's heretical as we mentioned before the belief in this time is that the god emperor mankind everything he created was perfect and who shouldn't fuck with god's creations and if you do you're a heretic unless you're the guy that created the primary marines in which you get a pass because the demigod gave you the thumbs up. That's a whole thing. We don't need to go into. 02:04.92 Mason I. 02:06.64 Craibo Um, 10000 features go without extra. 02:08.58 alifeinruins And he you to created all and part of that was was was games Workshop needed a new people to buy more models and they created a whole fleet of new vehicles and a whole set line of new space marines but he got it. Yeah, it's super yeah so much easier. 02:20.18 Mason We need big boys that are easier to paint. 02:22.80 Craibo You. 02:28.30 alifeinruins Um, but the landites still exist. So these archaeo these techno archeologists still exist and they have to do it in secret. Um, and so they're looking for missing patterns of vehicles though. And they're trying to create better vehicles. So they're under the this part of the mechanicists these cultists like understand like the emperor was still even though he's a god like we can improve upon it especially with with the primaris marines and their vehicles and stuff like they recognize they're still improvement right. That's how much knowledge has been lost in 10000 years is like they've we've basically taken several steps back. But um as that's going on the necrons briefly they're awakening and they're trying to find their old neckrons. Not all of them have awakened so they're trying to waken other other necron societies. Um. And they' just it's basically like space egyptians well at the same time. There are some people that adaptptist mechanic is like actively looking for necron technology and trying to find um, what is his name the betrayer not the betrayer. What the hell is his name. The guy that ended up killing the katon. 03:36.50 Mason Um, oh. 03:36.57 Craibo Seer the deceiver or or you in the moon dragon that may or may not be the o messiah on Mars a may or may not be a attack on. 03:39.17 alifeinruins The Deceiver Yeah, that whole thing. 03:44.80 alifeinruins She the the dragon of Mars yes, who's yeah, anyways, yeah bear yeah cut if there's a lot. There's so much nonsense. 03:55.10 Craibo Um. 03:58.80 alifeinruins But if you like actually look at this this world like a lot of this lore sets up multicomponent sites of like what's happening like there's a blank period before 30000 we we have no idea with the technology all the lore tells us the books tells us it's like super advanced technology the pinnacle of the human race. We don't know much about it terminator judgment day happens and then we basically turn everything. Everything's a super cathedral. All the ships are cathedrals just like google warhammer 40 k ships. It's basically the Notre Dame um with engines and a lot of guns traveling along with stars. Um. But like even just yeah shit we were. We were talking the interim but like how would you excavate Mars like like how do you excavate you know places like ah god damn who are the oh there astromiitarium that 1 army from the world war one planet. 04:50.59 Craibo Ah, yeah, it ends or the bracks Theiege of bracks. Oh ah, the the death legion Fuck What are the fault. 04:52.96 Mason Um, oh um. 04:55.67 alifeinruins So they they fight at racks. But it's a specific They can't forget what planet they come from the death legend. Yeah oh gosh it's gonna bug me got to look it up Forty K World War one. 05:07.95 Mason Um. 05:10.42 Craibo Um, yeah. 05:15.11 alifeinruins Army Krieg the death corps of Krieg yes, like how do you excavate a world that used to be a paradise and then went to a civil war and nuclear holocaust right? Like if we were if we were to actually do this work similar to like because we've lost unlike. 05:17.31 Craibo Um, create that that core. 05:32.41 alifeinruins The middle earth series which we talked about where me and David basically did like ah a 40 minute segment before we realized oh wait elves exist and they're immortal and they could just tell you you don't need archeologists in this world. The ldr hate primarily humans even though they're they're also mortal. They don't give a shit about humans anymore and so we're not talking to them. They're not giving us our history. And this universe and if you're a poor lowly person in the forty first millennium how do you try to uncover human history across the stars. 06:02.87 Craibo You're talking about digging through some serious construction Phil. 06:05.40 alifeinruins So. 06:10.21 Mason um yeah um I know might when he asked that question my first thought like how do you find hunter gather yourself after all this serious modification. What. 06:14.34 Craibo Yeah, hopefully you have so um, yeah. 06:24.19 alifeinruins Yeah, because like the emperor's palace is literally Tibet like it is the size of Tibet if not larger like think of. 06:25.57 Mason Ah, Phil. 06:26.67 Craibo Ah. 06:29.99 Craibo It is. 06:31.86 Mason I Mean there's nothing left. There's nothing left on terra in terms of like trying to find like hunter gathered man. Um, yeah. 06:36.97 alifeinruins There's no oceans on terra like it's that the world has been so Fucked. There's not oceans it is It is chorasant and absolute decay like there is Star Wars Lore about the lower levels of course on Shitty. The hive cities is what they're called in 40 K are ex. 06:53.32 Craibo Yeah, turn the entire Malea mountain range into his fortress complex I mean that that yeah you want to talk about you. Want to think yeah thought about so. 06:58.72 alifeinruins Yeah. 07:02.28 Mason Can entire himalayas are his house so and then also the rest of the planet is just one city there. There is nothing else. 07:04.64 alifeinruins Yes. 07:11.49 alifeinruins Yeah, and it's it's not great if you're at the lower levels like most people in on a hive city never see the light of day their lifespan they maybe make it to 30 They make know their name silly you. 07:17.66 Craibo Do you think Antarctica. 07:24.25 Mason So I think terra in terms of like the archeology there is horrifying I have I don't know how to like excavate that I mean like you look at like crazy levels of like superposition and create some interesting hypotheses about how these Like. Hi Hive cities were built but the same time like how do you? There's so many layers to it. It's just the most restful thing to to think About. Ah. 07:47.40 Craibo How do nuclear Blast react. 07:51.61 alifeinruins Yeah. 07:52.71 Craibo Do we do? We know that from Nagasaki and Hiroshima. How how we have nuclear blasts impact urban areas and then how they're built back up and what does that look like in an archeological context because. Ah, big part of the warhammer 40 k universe is that you have these massive nuclear wars occurring on on earth that kind of wipes it all clean and then the emperor rises out of these nuclear wars um to to take control of of Tara. 08:28.96 Craibo But so I imagine we'd we'd have to look at that at how do nuclear wars and nuclear warheads affect urban areas and and the only two that I could think of are course hiroshima and Nagasaki. 08:45.19 alifeinruins Yeah, so hiroshima has been absolutely rebuilt and they've left a couple places. So like yeah the ah the a the a bomb dome was secured in the 1960 s and it's a unesco world heritage site. Um, but yeah, there has to be like. 08:46.39 Craibo Um, it so without top. Yeah. 08:51.72 Mason Um, I might you know. 08:54.31 Craibo Where. 09:01.95 alifeinruins Imagine a layer of glass is somewhere in the strata there has to be some sort of like of almost like a volcanic event where like there is Pre-world War two material a fucking crater at one point like there's definitely geologic. You could see the backfill and then the. 09:04.52 Craibo I Have no idea I'm um. 09:08.64 Craibo Um I would just. 09:17.25 Craibo Yeah. 09:20.16 alifeinruins They had to have cleaned it from the radioactive material. 09:22.20 Craibo I Have no idea. Yeah I have no. 09:24.14 Mason Um, um, internet I think would have is 1000000 of challenges like I don't know for some reason like the Columbia River Gorbs coming into my head right now in terms like the sheer geology and confusion. What's happening there. Terms of all these massive floods. So for listeners Columbia River Gorge was subject to tons of like pretty much like wager ice would come down build a big lake and then lake would burst through and then rip through this gorge and then create this really so complex series of. Geology and the problem that hit there and I think what would happen forty k is you have a series of like really complex events that would wipe out part of what was previously existing so you're only left with like minor little clues here and there but what happened. That would erode all the things that happened to be there that were constantly in set in one another and so I think something like that would happen and 40 k in terms of it's always war. There's always't be news. These high cities are constantly building each other ripping out what was there before and and see get. Urban archeology on steroids going on. 10:38.31 alifeinruins Yeah, like even like there's so many like it's not even old wood but like old tech problems like even in the age of Strife as at like after as you met like before the God in for mankind reunified terra. 10:40.93 Craibo Um, and truly. 10:53.82 alifeinruins It was run by like techno barbarians and crazy shit where they're you know for like 10000 years like or 4000 years like constantly reusing old technology and to create these really fucked up fiefdoms and so like art like you couldn't even. Like even just trying to like identify create like a seriesation of artifacts would be like impossible in many contexts. 11:21.52 Mason Oh especially when we're talking about sween log gap like 30 to 40 k where they're still using a lot of the same technologies like the primary thing for like the ah space marines and the way to like figure out where you are in time is their make it model of like armor. But there's like what 6 different variations of Aar's armor yeah over 10000 years and then you get chaos and the warp into it where they're reusing stuff and time flows differently and just goes to a whole. 11:40.24 Craibo Um, earth hookland 10 tops. Yeah. 11:41.74 alifeinruins Yeah. 11:54.36 alifeinruins Yes, there is a mark 10 power armor and that that's it. 11:55.22 Mason Bang. 12:00.30 Mason Yeah, so ten over ten dozen years 12:04.81 Craibo That's like fancy boy power armor before we get into primaris. 12:08.48 alifeinruins well well ah the mark one armor is thunder power armor. So that's like what the thunder warriors used even before 30 k ah such yeah, like yes, like yeah. 12:15.58 Craibo Yeah, yeah, and I think I think the heresy model is 3 to 5 earth. 12:17.64 Mason Okay, so 50 her let's see if underwors were what twenty Eight Twenty nine someone there. 12:26.29 alifeinruins 12000 years so basically over the course of of of human colonization to the Americas it changed armor maybe 10 times. 12:33.35 Mason And then also one of those isn't really real. It's just because it was during the Heresy and they just kept taking parts of other armor kids and like whoa I Guess we'll call this one in number. Yeah. 12:36.20 Craibo Um. 12:40.22 alifeinruins Yeah. 12:40.48 Craibo Yeah. 12:46.80 alifeinruins Exactly Yeah and then there's terminator arm and then like all of them have their own special like speciions like each you know legion does its own thing and then like and we didn't even fucking talk about like. 12:46.75 Craibo Mark 6 yeah, it's a March six 13:04.32 alifeinruins After the Heresy all the legions got broke up and you got chapters and so now there's like hundreds of space Marine chapters doing their own thing. It's just. 13:11.24 Craibo We we didn't even scratch the surface of 40 caneboard and we did a shit job explaining it. Ah. 13:13.80 alifeinruins Yeah, you know and it's like you can't even wait with the technology because like I guessed you could see up until the age of strife advances and and. And technology where they're definitely done a certain way but like after that you have like a 4000 year period of just crazy basically fallout weaponry and technology and. 13:39.42 Craibo Um, is almost it. So. 13:40.39 Mason Oh yeah, you get like the tech. No barbarians on terra and so mean 1 thing we probably do. We probably didn't chad too much bell but in terms of like during age drive things weren't chill on terra and that's kind of why like the debt big daddy emperor. I decided to jump in and try to help but like it took him longer to take over tarra than it did for most the great crusade. It's bananas and the entire time like they referred to everyone else as like technomarbarians. 14:09.84 alifeinruins Yeah, it took a while. 14:18.53 Mason Which is one the coolest thing I've ever heard and then two their armor was just anything they could scramble on and all this kind of wild stuff and so in terms like trying to like identify that in terms of archeology and trying to develop aeration I have no idea where to begin. 14:21.20 alifeinruins Yeah. 14:22.25 Craibo Whole term. 14:37.11 alifeinruins Yeah, it's definitely. It's definitely like planet specific because if we think about caliban the home of the first legion and like imagine it to get blown up at the end of the heresy not talking about it but it goes from being colonized being part of the age of technology. Um. 14:39.25 Mason Ah. 14:53.26 alifeinruins It gets cut off from the universe they regress basically into like a night feudalistic society but it doesn't get destroyed their technology. They basically have you know, powered low key powered night armor. They use pistols and swords and then there's a definite like when they get reconnected with the imperium. Like there's a very you could sereate that I think pretty well because like that planet's heavily forested. 15:16.87 Craibo But then what about what about Fenris and the space wolves were absolutely nothing changed and they were just like no we we love our very barbaric lifestyle. We we love being space by game. Yeah, but but. 15:28.99 alifeinruins The the space vikings. Yeah, So there's definitely.. There's definitely points in time of like outside of terra initial colonization syriaation up until um, the eye of terror opens with the birth of slanash and then if and then some get. Ah, what?? What's the word that they use when they bring compliance some you know planets go get into compliance Willingly some don't So. There's definitely like capital cities that like you know, depending on the legion if angron and the world eaters show up your planet is fucking done for. So There's a layer of just absolute destruction and then you know the seriesation of like this is the imperial buildings like they have that plan but like there's planets that get yeah exactly. 16:12.27 Craibo Or the yet or guilt showing up and rebuilding a new Omar a new athens. 16:21.31 Mason I'm also curious like they'll they'll talk about like let's say like the which problem the Knight Lord show up lot of times been the crusade knight lords their entire thing shtick is like they're terrifying horrifying horrible. Um, so they show up people give up go in compliance. They talk about destroying and rebuilding everything within the imperial fashion. But what does that destruction look like are they like doing like. Actually like just knock yourself down. Is there any kind of destruction. Debris is there any kind of like ways to rebuild what it may have looks like in the past or are they straight up just like melting everything glassing it. What's happening there. 16:57.48 Craibo Are we are we talking Syncretism or race or full replacement. Yeah. 17:04.14 Mason Yeah, yeah, like what? what? what are we looking at. 17:07.40 alifeinruins I think the ones that don't go compliant willingly get absolutely rebuilt the imperial way but like when the emperor comes across Roebo Giliman and in the thirteenth and he has his own the his own little empire already. They're largely left intact. You know, sanguinous when he's connected on ball. They really don't even rebuild that like some of those planets don't even really get rebuilt. They get kind of left alone and you know ball becomes basically like a sand planet like tattooing with like radi radioactive scorpions and they just kind of let the primemark. 17:29.70 Mason 5 17:44.57 alifeinruins Do his thing and they don't really change it so there's like definitely variance into how some worlds get brought back into the empire and it's just like like. You know terra is a fucking archeological nightmare some of the others might be able to do more stratified archeology and and figure things out and have a seriesation of cultures and artifacts. You know, kind of but there's like a holistic I guess like k 2 layer in all the planets. For the most part right? Where like the birth of slenash is a major galactic event that is similar to like what wiped out the dinosaurs on earth like you can find that ash layer across the planet I would imagine you would have that similar k two boundary in. Um. Human colonized worlds across the galaxy where there's very much 1 form of technology and then it changes. 18:36.35 Craibo And I bet you get that pre and post contact from the great crusade too I would imagine just with you know, natural deviation and technology. 18:38.70 Mason Oh yeah, definitely. 18:46.80 alifeinruins Yeah. 18:54.13 Craibo Occurs over 10000 years and then all of a sudden a reestablishment of the the mechanics relatively stick doctrines of what technology has to be I imagine you would you would see some sort of you know Mount The Zama type. 19:04.24 alifeinruins Yep. 19:13.33 Craibo Layer where there's one and then all of a sudden. There's another. Yeah yeah, yeah. 19:15.75 alifeinruins I Imagine like so much like a Roman layer like when Romans expand out they're coexisting with the previous indigenous and then they bring the Roman package with them like I imagine it's the same and like just like you know the Romans had various levels of of influence upon Colonization. So I imagine it similar to the Em Imperialium if we look at the empire man as you know the space Romans where you where you have that same sort of. 19:38.60 Craibo Absolutely I mean should we we could look at what. 19:45.19 Mason And I'm sure you just see something similar like I'm thinking of you mentioned calibban earlier Calam ah was the chaos planet kind of a little bit right? and so like I think I remember like seeing like art of. 19:53.37 alifeinruins Yeah, it was a death world. 19:53.98 Craibo Yeah, yeah. 20:02.20 Mason Um, the problem work that was there all up in 30 k it was very spiky very chaosy. All this kind of stuff but thinking about the seation of how you look at the artifacts from that assemblage. Let's say you have something that was pre chaos chaos. 20:21.20 Craibo You can even do like you knew a pre high in calian and then the line showing up and how that impacted Caliban's artifacts and the way that they created their weapons of war. 20:21.75 Mason Ah, post grade crusade and if you look at. 20:35.58 alifeinruins Yeah, because a lot of a lot of those. There's probably yeah, that's a second layer because like many prime marks ended up unifying their home planets some not so much yeah of like unification. 20:36.19 Mason Yeah. 20:44.88 Craibo Um, they had massive impacts on that. Yeah. 20:46.51 Mason But yeah, you probably like use that as some way of like artifactually in terms of what's changing in terms of manufacturing or what's happening like I thinking of the trauma the night lords area. When do things become more efficient when do you see like better tools and all this stuff ignoring all the horrors of Conrad curs There be some level of change in terms of the assemblage you would see right. 21:13.57 alifeinruins Yeah, and it's all variant on which prime art because like yeah conrad becomes like evil space Batman and rules his planet by just sheer fucking terror and terrorizing the mobs and gangs that run the planet into like chilling out. 21:25.69 Craibo I am back now. 21:27.86 Mason Yeah, so. 21:29.87 alifeinruins And then of course there's planets that you know they get absolutely wiped out like spoil or Caliban blows up at the end of the Heresy and becomes ah you know space high charity from Halo It's you know like you know that's that's what happens that planet. 21:48.67 Mason Um. 21:49.62 alifeinruins So many dirty references coming out. You know, but it's it's like it would be like if there if there is 1 universe I'd like to be an archeologist. It'd probably be the star wars universe. It wouldn't be 40 K Forty k is a fucking nightmare like even just from the archeology if it was legalized like it's just. You know like I don't want to I don't want to be excavating somewhere and then these glowing green automatons from like 60000000 years come out and start destroying the planet. 22:13.86 Craibo Feel like the risk of death in the 40 k universe is much higher than every other fictional universe. 22:21.91 Mason Yeah, yeah, food. 22:21.93 alifeinruins Yeah. 22:27.30 Craibo Um, yeah I mean yeah yeah. 22:30.10 alifeinruins Sweet. Well I Hope this was informative Some people I know like we do have forty K I've talked about Forty K a couple times on this podcast and I get people reached out and like so ah I hope this was beneficial for some people like we enjoy doing episodes like this. We bring on our friends to talk about something like. Archeology adjacent or just you know Nerdy fandom. It's not dogs. So There's that um, but before we end. 22:51.90 Craibo God talk David not talk. 22:57.60 alifeinruins But but before we end the show Alex and ah Mason what are a couple sources. These could be articles bookss videos that yourebe recommend for anyone interested, whatever 40 I'll go out and say like the the first 3 novels of the horace heresy. Fantastic. 23:13.53 Craibo Um, you know? ah. 23:16.46 alifeinruins Um, I yeah I I love reading about you know you basic like my favorite like the 2 favorite space mar legions I love reading ur couple I love reading about the blood angels the dark angels and alpha legian and then also thousand sons. 23:16.48 Mason Um, ah man I'm was gonna say that. 23:32.76 alifeinruins So you just kind of pick out of the hundred I think over 180 books now you basically kind of find your favorites and you look for those books um, anything written by Guy Haley is is is pretty good and that's all horace harrissy. That's a whole different series and um, did. 23:46.31 Craibo I think Dan Avnet it's gonna be wonderful as well. 23:50.81 alifeinruins Fantastic. 23:52.40 Mason I if you' won like a real nice like self introduction to like 40 k the eisen horn series I think its pretty good by Da Dan Abnet ah is kind of what got me starting to get interested in the lower. Um. 23:56.10 Craibo There is so. Have that's go. 24:01.90 alifeinruins Yep, that is. 24:07.99 alifeinruins Gear. 24:09.86 Mason Titanicist is also a great just like one off great book. It's a lot of fun. Highly recommend it. 24:15.61 alifeinruins Yeah, yeah I I love K Nids and Blood Angels So I like the forty K series about um ah when the blood Angels fought The tear fought the tyranids you know, ah the devastation of ball is one of my favorite. You know that's that's a good one. Ah. 24:28.40 Mason Um. 24:33.54 alifeinruins There's some amazing youtubers out there games library which creates the warhammer series you can go to their website. We'll put that down below games Workshop black library which is their publishing house has bunch those yes so crave just mentioned major killll if you want basically an Adhd buffed-out Australian telling you about. Warhammer I Love him some people hate him. But I Love his energy. Um, he's good. Yeah one moment I think someone knocked at the door. 24:56.48 Craibo So sexing. 25:07.40 Craibo If you guys are interested in like a good wiki lexiconum is a wonderful fan fan sourced outlet or reference for 40 k um, it's always. 25:20.25 Mason I also enjoy if you're a Reddit nerd and spend a lot of time on Reddit ah 40 k lord is a wonderful subreddit full of tremendous human beings that have lot to say about this. Whole nerd-dom. 25:38.59 alifeinruins Sorry about that. Ah so major kill sorry Chris cut out from when I said I need a good someone's at the door to this major kill's a good one I also like ah baldemort he's pretty good. Ah, there's 1 guy I think it's oculus imperia where he he talks to the lore like he's an ah adeptist librarian where he's like telling you if he was at lor guy himself like reiterating the lore of of 40 k from the perspective of a historian in that time. 26:02.66 Mason Yeah, yeah. 26:14.16 alifeinruins I Fall asleep to him a lot because like he has such a smoothing chill voice. Ah, what do you guys? got. 26:20.91 Mason Well saying. Ah I tend to go to like 40 k lower on Reddit and just kind of hang out and read a bunch of random posts and they can also if I can't sleep. That's kind of one of my good to you things start looking at forty Klo unreaddit 26:26.72 Craibo The remembrance. 26:37.18 alifeinruins Yeah, it's um, Jesus, there's there's there's a lot of really good content and like warhammer blew up I think a lot of people reconnected during the pandemic because you could just order it and paint and it um so like a lot of people I've only played the game like a couple times. Like I just enjoy painting like as especially as an archaeologist or an academic like the fact I just have to sit there with a model and just think about painting like zens me out. 27:00.62 Mason So like 40 k always got me like interested I was always I guess I was always in her myset I was always interested interested in 40 k um, and like the war hammer universe and all this kind of stuff. But what really kind of. Bird me to actually take the die and certainly nerding out about it was during the pandemic I just really wanted this to have a hobby and so I just started paying a bunch of 40 k rating that of like random forty k stuff on the internet and it's amazing. Had a lot of fun over the last couple years 27:38.57 alifeinruins Yeah I have a couple model I haven't painted so like the ones that I showed crabe earlier like my devastation of ball captain I actually a buddy of mine from undergrad. He got his degree and in art his name is Ethan. 27:46.14 Mason Oh. 27:54.49 alifeinruins And he is a professional warhammer 40 k painter and like some of I think one of my models is on the website like he gets featured I kind of helped him a little bit with like how to do more Instagram stuff. But if you look him up. He's handies underscore hobbieshandys. Underscore H O B B I E S His whole channel is stuff he paints and gets commissioned to and like what I love about his posts is he does like a real quick um piece of the lore about them. So like his content has gotten fantastic and I really love going to him. 28:23.52 Craibo Are cool. 28:26.78 Mason This side. 28:30.12 alifeinruins Right now I think he has like over a dozen commissions of the lion's model and he he does it. He knows his shit I'm gonna have to text him because like this guy. 28:35.75 Craibo Wow Model Isth Taxy that model is really sexy as a dark fan Boyy I in a completely unbiased perspective on that just saying. 28:49.15 alifeinruins Yeah. 28:51.14 Mason I'm just looking at it and trying to figure out how to like convert it to iron warriors. 28:56.73 alifeinruins He has a bunch So like it's It's kind of funny because like right now of course everything is is ah. 28:57.90 Craibo Um, higher with it iron without. 29:03.27 alifeinruins Now I'll try to remember mine mine on there but he's like gotten Dorn. He's done 30 k models. So like if you're interested just to see like a variance of the different kinds of stuff because like in the warhammer community like there's god knows. So many different armies. Every faction has subarmies in different units like the the variance is crazy and they're really fun to paint like I'll never paint chaos like the chaos marines like trying to play like if I can't I would commit suicide. Trying to paint a plague marine I think. 29:39.83 Mason Um, it's so funny. You just be sloppy. Do what you want. 29:40.51 Craibo Um, pla my paint possible. He might be papa Neil's second acolyte. 29:48.10 alifeinruins Yeah I mean using. 29:50.80 Mason To like I must see I mean look at my dirty like black temple ors. He's a very dirty boy but pretty much. Ah, so. 29:55.84 Craibo That's a dirty boy. That's a dirty boy. 29:57.30 alifeinruins That's it's still a good looking black templar. How do they play because I've always liked because I like shooty still and I was thinking about doing Imperial fists. Do they play well on the tip like I guess you've never played. 30:10.77 Mason I've never played so I have no idea just like pain shit. 30:11.55 Craibo Ah, like or excuse. But. 30:12.34 alifeinruins Share. Yeah. 30:16.99 Craibo Templar has got to play more old blood Angels It's got to be more more kind of close combat fast in your face. Yeah. 30:20.42 alifeinruins Yeah, and they all have different play styles I mean shit with with the orcs in order for there's if you paint it Yellow it goes faster that's in the rules. Legit It's a whole daca back now paint it Yellow goes faster paint it like. 30:31.44 Craibo That and I niagra. 30:34.31 Mason I Don't know paint a red right? Oh I thought it was red. Um I thought red goes faster. 30:39.71 alifeinruins Or there's there's a painted I think that makes the explosions bigger. 30:47.63 alifeinruins Oh red is an necessary for the cult to speed yellows coldt to speed. Yeah, oh well, no, there is also painting it red makes it go faster. There's a Jesus Fuck Yeah Orcs get weird. They' 30:47.96 Craibo No yeah, Yellow is the cult to speed isn't it. Yeah. 30:54.62 Mason Now. 31:02.73 Craibo Um, sort it is not events for and like but. 31:05.20 alifeinruins Basically cockney yeah, there's yeah, it's a whole thing anyways guys. So we can we got to end this Jesus our producers gonna kill me. Um. 31:05.77 Mason The other thing is ah everything in 40 k is contradictory. There's that. 31:22.14 alifeinruins Ah, Craig where can our listeners find you on social media. 31:26.80 Craibo Ah, you can find me on Instagram at El Cravo that is spanish for the crabo ah that that's probablyies place to find me. 31:35.47 alifeinruins And it and Mesa Rick and our followers find you. 31:41.69 Mason I Don't have social media but just email me. 31:48.42 Craibo And find them through me. Ah. 31:48.49 alifeinruins Sweet up I'll put I'll put their Instagram I'll put great Instagram emails both down below. Um, and you know thank you for joining us today Alex and Mason if given the chance again would you still choose to live a life. 32:04.27 alifeinruins And 40 k ruins. 32:07.21 Craibo I mean if I can be like a du back and back ah all yellow work then I'm Goingnna go with yes. 32:12.53 Mason Sure yeah. 32:14.71 alifeinruins Got to get them to yeah, it's it's a fucking. It's it's a fucking miserableasable existence all right? Everyone we just interviewed Alex Craib and ah ah mason. It's not perquette shit. What is it? yeah. 32:18.55 Mason Ah. 32:21.50 Craibo And. 32:25.89 Mason The get. 32:26.89 Craibo Are. 32:31.40 alifeinruins Everyone we just interviewed Alex Craib and Mason Mcette I said it fucking wrong again. Niquette I did an m this is going to go in the front Chris is going to edit this to the front this other episode's going to fucking start. Well everyone we just interviewed mason niquettet and Alex Craib um both serum archeologists not to just across over for me. 32:36.51 Mason Ah. 32:43.45 Craibo Um, ah. 32:50.76 alifeinruins Um, you can find their ah contact information down below. You know, please be sure to rate and review the podcast write us with feedback on whichever podcasting platform you're listening to so on Apple you know you can give us the reviews. We'd love listening to them. Um, and if you're listening on the all shows feed please consider not and subscribing directly to our show. It helps us build um subscribers one and then two it allows us to get advertisers and sponsors. Um I do want to let everyone know that for a long time. The podcast was hovering around 5 or 6000 downloads a month and I'm really happy and excited to mention like we've. For the past two three months now we've routinely gotten over 15000 downloads a month. Ah so we've actually we had talked about this before we've always wanted to supersede the dirt even before they left and we've actually done that based on their numbers. Um, so. We're really glad all of you have stood by our side as we've gone through this. Um, it's about to be summertime again which you know means that it's gonna be a shit show again. Um real quick Chris at its up here i' just want to check to see if we have any reviews. Which we should other at the bottom anything new. No sweet, perfect. So yeah, please remember if you review the podcast we'll send you a sticker one day. So yep, with that we are out and. 34:09.85 Mason Hi Chris. 34:24.33 Craibo Where's all my fruit carlton. No here I am the one to this. 34:26.66 alifeinruins I gave you one at um, the conference in night. Oh crab is did you not get a sticker I brought stickers for you specifically. But I think it's because it didn't see you again. Um. 34:28.70 Mason You give me segers. 34:41.60 Craibo And I get nothing nothing. 34:41.75 Mason Well, it gave me sars that need to give him check. But then I got Covid so I haven't had a chance given check but leave him check. 34:47.23 Craibo Um, you should probably give them the and it's more important. 34:49.86 alifeinruins All right. 34:54.99 Craibo Um, yeah, let's talk to our marketing director. Some bitch didn't printed stickers. 34:59.24 alifeinruins Yeah I'm trying to look up. Yeah, we are I'm trying to use. There's a joke segment at the end. Ah if you if you if you listen to the end Connor tells it a witty joke and I'm like trying to look for like Chris you just need to edit all this shit out. 35:01.65 Mason Are we still recording. 35:07.60 Craibo Um. 35:13.81 Craibo You should do some vs here ni for Vts. 35:15.57 alifeinruins And I'm I'm trying to find 1 35:20.50 Mason Um, hey what was the but again of slates the meeting because he is yeah because he is like a yatzi. Ah. 35:25.32 Craibo Um, because he's flaky. Ah. 35:28.24 alifeinruins Say fuck it. We'll keep it all right? Thank you Mason? No, we'll just keep that that's good makes it told the joke this time because I was taking too like I what we really out now. 35:35.44 Craibo But.